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Okay guys and gals, I have to ask... how many of you do in the air mends AFTER the stop?We had a raging debate going on at another site over this and one person (okay, two if you count Jason!) seem to...

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Guy, you hit the nail on the head with your post here, no question of doubt that slower actioned rods allow way easier aerial mends, curve casts call em what you will, any angle other than a direct...

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I have to get this straight...A Curve Cast and an Aerial Mend are the same?I can see a little bit of this and yet a little against. I guess I thought the opposite of Jackster, the mend goes after the...

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Brian,You raise some good points here. What is by definition the difference, as in my book they are more or less the same.Objectively you are forming a direction of angle of the fly line other than a...

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A good video that shows some good techiiques is Doug Swishers "Advanced Casting Techniques". Its a little old but well worth the look.I will agree that softer or mid flex rods offer better controll...

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I agree, they both get the job done and can end up with the same result. I guess I thought of them as different casts because with the curve being so different than what I thought the Aerial Mend was....

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The main issue with mending is the ability to read the water and determine to what extent a mend needs to be made for the required correction without adverse affects to prolong the drift of the fly,...

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Going back to the original question. I do both at times, but...It is my understanding that a mend is something we do after the "stop". Anything we do prior to the "stop" is part of the cast. Of...

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Exactly Guy, very confusing even to us expert casters !!!Davy.http://davywotton.com.Fly Fishing Schools and guide services.

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If you don't stop the flyrod, please tell me, and I'll be there with my scuba gear for some free tackle. There's no such thing as a flycast in which the caster doesn't stop the rod.haul

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Troy:What happens if I don't stop but just slow down?

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I guess you could -- IF YOU WERE MICHAEL JORDAN IN SPACE JAM!!Or if you just continued running/swimming around the world until the end of time. At some point, there will be an instant when you cease...

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We'll let the engineers have at that one for a while.

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"There's no such thing as a flycast in which the caster doesn't stop the rod."Of course technically that's true, but within the context that we use them, stop and no stop are meaningful descriptions...

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I understand. But I don't want to use words or phrases in my teaching that mean something to "us" but are not explicitly obvious in the public vernacular. As students become more advanced, of course,...

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I guess we are probably involved in a lot of casting conversations that maybe others here are not. What I meant was that the loop forms at rod straight position RSP not at the "stop". Once the rod tip...

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Yes, of course. And to be most clear, we have to differentiate between the stop at the cork and the stop of the rod tip. Not the same at all.I did see the loops of Ally's casts, and they're ambiguous...

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I have serious doubts that a loop can actually climb as a result of "lift" caused by a decellerating fly line. However I'm open to the thought.The climbing loop that most people see is from a back...

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I agree with you John, I've seen no evidence and cannot reason my way into a genuine "climbing loop", as it's being described. In my experience and opinion, the best that our aerodynamic phenomena can...

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Magneto hydrodynamics...... I'm pretty sure the loop converts to plasma when Andrew casts.....

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